If I were a client today #2 (I wouldn’t use an agency)

This is Waluigi. He belongs to Nintendo.
This is the second post in the series “if I were a client today”. Yesterday I told you what we were like as a client, and how we set up the Internet department. As I mentioned yesterday the internet department at the company where I used to work us in the Product Research and Development department and that both the company and the core team were focused, excited and knew exactly what they wanted to do. If you haven’t read it (and the comments) you should, otherwise the stuff that follows makes little sense.
This series was sparked by a little story I heard and by this post by Ben. The basic premise of the series is that regardless of all the things we’ve learnt over the last six years and regardless of the advances in technology nothing has changed and that agencies still pay lip service to all things “digital”.
Ben doesn’t work for an agency, he’s a founding partner of a design company called “The Design Conspiracy” and his post helps us move on from where we left off yesterday. In it he says:
There’s a lot of talk about Web 2.0, to the extent that companies ring up and say, “Hello, can we have some Web 2.0 please?” We get asked a lot for “X, Y and Z and can it have a social networking element?”
Because of the way we set up our department, with a core team of who really knew what they were doing, we could never have made a call like that. This may surprise you but we did actually feel obliged to be the best client we possibly could. When we finally went to market to find an agency we wanted to be ready.
But what we didn’t know was that it would protect us during a two months phase where I slowly but surely lost my faith and my respect for an industry that had previously been my professional home. You see, Ben quotes a client, but you could take that query, turn it on its head and it would have been pretty much the kind of call we, as the client would get, from agencies.
As soon as the news broke that we were planning something and looking for an agency that’s when the trouble started.
Now Paul Colman used to be a client too, and way back in May 2006, whilst still at Yakult he covered this and put together a rather useful list for hopeless Business Development Directors. Read it.
If you’ve set up your department as I outlined yesterday and you’re completely clear about what you want to do than you probably have a pretty idea of the kind of agency you want to work for. We’d drawn up a list of about 10 possible agencies which we reduced to 4 before finally approaching them. That’s the kind of stuff clients do. Getting on that list is hard and if you’re going to cold call a client (have you read Paul’s list – no? read it) then you should at least be interesting and use language that the client can understand.
I think if we had not taken the time to sort ourselves out before looking at agencies, the “cold call period” would have become hell. It would have confused us, caused distraction within the team and probably bloated the agency list. As it was, we were, independent if each other, in a position to field the calls.
Not one agency asked the simple question, “is there a list and how do we get on it?” and when we asked the caller why we should consider working with them (it’s a simple question – differentiate yourself from the competition please) we received the following responses:
- We have global reach – we are a member of network X, Y or Z
- We’ve got the best technical team in the business (we’re good at programming stuff)
- We did campaign X,Y or Z (99% of which was above the line)
- We’re cool, bright, young smart and fast.
- We’re good at flash (I’m not lying – 2 of the industry’s biggest names actually said this to me).
- We have Mr (add name, rank and knighthood) on our board of directors.
- Digital now makes up x% of are annual turnover – so you can see how seriously we take the online world
- We can make your brand “top of mind”, with “sticky” components that will encourage “sneezers” to spread “idea viruses” thus creating “communication ripples” throughout a community that we would manage and control (you know who you are and you should be ashamed of yourself).
- What’s your media spend?
There was more, but I’m sure you get the picture. Sound familiar? Not happening today? Well have a look at this:
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Nothing has changed. Web 2.0 is nothing more than an upgrade in terminology. You see, what was apparent back in 2001 was that most (in fact nearly all agencies) weren’t sure what they were going to do with digital. They didn’t understand what it was, what you could do with it, how you excite and engage people with it and, more importantly for them, they didn’t know how to make money out of it.
Now, if you’re a client and you’re not sure about these things, and you’re agency isn’t really sure about these things then you’re doomed.
We eventually invited 4 agencies to a pitch briefing (I should point out that the agency that eventually won the business was excellent) and I’ll cover what happened there tomorrow.
But…
If I were a client today I would, in terms of strategic services, completely negate an agency. I wouldn’t use one. Knowing what I know now, I would battle for an increase in headcount for my department pulling in some of the smarter people from the agency world. There are smart people out there working in agencies (both big and small) but the agencies they work for aren’t smart. If my department is focused, has clear goals and a team of extremely smart people that have access to fantastic content, and understand the medium then the only thing I need an agency for is execute how our customers interact with us visually. So I don’t really need an agency at all. I need a design consultancy.
Tomorrow, you’ll see why.
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Seb
These are the best posts I have read in a long time and I am really curious how the story continues (though I can imagine how) and I hope you finish this story.
Every point your mentioning, Marcus, is common sense. A tool a lot of agencies and clients don’t seem to use as often as they should. I am not sure if reducing agencies to executers is the right way but I absolutely agree on the fact that agencies should learn to work together with and not only for a client (this is an interesting thing, agencies always say “we work for” but never “we work with”). Only through working in a team with the client you can really understand their way to think, their goals and brand. And so saying the work you do should be done with the client. What is difficult in a pitch but even there it should be possible to have more meetings with the client and involve them in every stage of your thinking and working process.
Again, brilliant post and I am excited to read on.
Nov 8th, 2007
Rob Mortimer
“We can make your brand “top of mind”, with “sticky” components that will encourage “sneezers” to spread “idea viruses” thus creating “communication ripples” throughout a community that we would manage and control”
Oh what i’d give to know which agency that was!!
Great post as usual.
Nov 8th, 2007
Marcus Brown
Seb - I have yet to see (with the exception of maybe one) an example of an online initiative whereby the agency has been anything else.
Rob M - I’m sure you would.
Nov 8th, 2007
Angus
Me like.
Not Gary. The post.
Nov 8th, 2007
fredrik sarnblad
More please!
Nov 8th, 2007
lauren
marcus, can i join your team please?
the way agencies talk about clients, you think they’d want all clients to work this way. but i have a feeling that agencies like having the moral (creative/strategic) high ground to themselves, where the clients are the damsels in distress and they are the knights in shining armour.
Nov 8th, 2007
Marcus Brown
I have to admit that I’m a little surprised by the (up until now) positive response to this post. I’m feeling feisty - and in the mood to fight my corner.
Surely someone is going to call me on this?
Nov 8th, 2007
John Grant
just bundling in
have worked on lots of projects to deliver brilliant stuff for clients sans agencies
but for some things they are just the thing
isnt it a bit like debating eating in vs eating out?
:J
Nov 8th, 2007
Gavin Heaton
Back to your storytelling best, Marcus!
There really is something to owning your own strategy. Really, if you (as a client) are not close enough to your market to understand what is going on there, then you have bigger problems than advertising/branding. But to think that an agency is going to out innovate you is crazy. Sure, agencies can do it, but it will cost you … and will only be successful with your input and guidance.
The decision to in/outsource, to me, is about managing control and politics. If you have the internal support it is easier to insource. But if you have to run the gauntlet internally, you are not likely to get the headcount anyway … so you are better off spending your time selling the ideas in internally and allowing the agency to generate the ammunition that you need.
Looking forward to the update!
Nov 8th, 2007
Carolyn Anna Hall
As always, a bloody brilliant post. I might just get a bag of popcorn for the next one.
I do, however, think this speaks to something much larger, which is the continual outsourcing of key functions to outside agencies and consultants that take the learnings with them when they go. I am a client and I spend my day building in-house capability. I want to keep my IP. Also by doing this, you are able to attract and retain really smart people that want to work on your business and have some skin in the game. But that is a whole different story……
Nov 9th, 2007
Philip
I think they guys who hired me have done something right. Until now. I’ll know more next week.
Must remember to ask for headcount, must remember to ask for headcount, must remember to ask for headcount.
Nov 9th, 2007
Wisey
So here are all of us, saying “Yes, yes, yes! We get it” but why is it so hard to make the change? Why is everyone else still bogged down in the old way??
Some nice music to go with this comment
Nov 12th, 2007
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